Thursday, March 01, 2007

A Riddle With A Wisdom

Two large jars of exact equal size. The first jar holds pepsi, the second jar holds the same but seven-up.

Using a small empty cup you remove a full small cup of pepsi and pour it in the sevenup jar, you mix the seven-up jar well. Then you remove from the seven-up jar (which has a small amount of pepsi in it) a full small cup and pour it into the pepsi jar.

The question now is:

Is there more pepsi in the sevenup jar than seven-up in the pepsi jar, or is it that there is more sevenup in the pepsi jar than pepsi in the sevenup jar?

This riddle simply proves that casual reasoning cant be trusted.

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

what is the answer?

Anonymous said...

aahhmm, fee khayarat?

Anonymous said...

Ya3ni for godness sake both of you are engineers.

Just try to think about it and give it your best shot.

Anonymous said...

more pepsi in the sevenup jar than seven-up in the pepsi jar

Anonymous said...

Ok, here's what 9999 out of 10000 people not only would answer, but would swear that their answer is correct:

"More pepsi in the sevenup jar than sevenup in the pepsi jar"

Unfortunately, the above answer is wrong.

The correct answer is:

"The same"

The same amount of pepsi exists in the 7up jar as 7up in the pepsi jar.

Ya3ni, human logic, casual reasoning, spontaneous common sense, whatever you want to call it, can be used, but cant be trusted for absolute conclusions.

Anonymous said...

why biso?
I thought that we poured x amount of pepsi in the 7 up jar, and x amount of 7 up and pepsi back to the pepsi jar.

so its logical that x full of pepsi has more pepsi than x of the mixture, no?

Anonymous said...

Ali, listen try it out with simple numbers like 100ml of pepsi and 100ml of sevenup. And a small 10ml cup, and see what happens.

Actually, I can prove it easily using x, y notation, but in a blog's comment, it wont be easily read.

So try it out.

Anonymous said...

One more thing.

We removed x of the pepsi jar, yes its pure 'x' pepsi and poured it in the seven up jar. Very logical, pure 'x' pepsi, I know.. But wait a second, the pepsi jar is now 'x' less pepsi, and the seven up jar is 'x' millilitres of pepsi more.

Now getting back 'x' of the mixture back, you have to realize that the mixture is added in one place, and subtracted from the other.

Isma3, its not easy to visualize it.

Anonymous said...

fe3lan you are right. the same!

Anonymous said...

awalan, the answer to the quesiton u posted is: NEITHER!
bass if u understand it that way u just said it, then it is VERY easy to visualize it :) u just have to pick the right objects: if you have "100 cubes of pepsi" and a "100 cubes of seven" grabbing 10 cubes from A into B, then 10 of the mixture back to A. the mixture holds (say) 2 pepsi, that leaves 8 cubes of pepsi in the seven up jar, thus they are the same. because u always have to remember, u r returning less pepsi to a less amount of pepsi, the proportion is always the same.

bass that wasnt the question u posted, u did not ask: is there more pepsi in seven up jar or more seven up in pepsi jar? the answer to THAT is they are the same. but u asked us to compare two different statements, that neither is CORRECT, the first argues that there is A more than B, the other argues that B more than A, and they are both (as we have found out) incorrect, so the answer is: NEITHER ;) i thought u knew that, that is why i was mockering :)

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